No problems, I have yet to see a bad product come through my hands and I usually do most of the install work for my team.

Just a little update so far I have shot an equivalent of:

47.75 x bags of BB bastard .25 (Now I'm completely cleaned out of my excess grenade ammo)
2 x bags of .20 BBB
2 x bags of .28 BBB
.30 x bags of Madbull .25 in the last 4 months

Final run down : PROS
- zero issues of reliability, work great under hot, cold and wet conditions (light rain, no submersion in water)
- Motor was warm at first but not as warm as Systema
- Accuracy improved as the hop up gets worked in
- No blemish or other noticeable worn parts after excess of 100,000 shots, internals is like the first day I open it
- Mysterious Grease that they use is like pure Teflon, no brown stuff that Systema use
- No failure on any electronic parts even after extreme usage and low voltage battery (7.4V LiPo)
- No Jams or misfeed from mags
- Amazing Customer support and service from both the manufacturer and dealer
- New exciting model project in 2013 such as a SCAR, AK and HK417 platform

CONS :

- Price
- Limited quantity and selection on models (XM177, M4, M4 NST, HK416D, M4DD, M4 Troy, M4 VLTOR)
- No other platform available yet but in near future (2013-14)

Final comments: definitely worth getting another (I already ordered the HK 416D), very reliable PTW, this kind of performance is what a PTW should be out of the box from Systema. Price may be a sticker shock to some but you don't have to go my route and got the bells and whistle, a basic set up should not set you back more than a new PTW from Systema with all the upgrades. With the emergence of PTW clones and compared to the FCC from what I saw out of the DTW the FCC will definitely beat it hands down, the only thing that can probably compete or even excel the FCC in some area would be a fully modified rifle by the master Tac himself

Good to hear. One of ours has purchased his first FCC motor, so we'll see how she holds up. I hope Systema takes this "friendly" competition seriously and ups their game a little. Making best, better is a good goal, and I'm glad FCC is releasing quality parts. They may very well end up the "RA-Tech", of the Systema world.

FCC was rumored to be making a budget gun under $2000, probably same internals but with alot less of the niceties.

I'd be up for a QC'd "basic" package. Aside from the 416 builds I'd want to do my own thing.

If it were me, I'd buy a used PTW, something in rough shape, painted body, whatever. Then buy the FCC 416 kit and harvest the internals for it. Have your own 416 for under $2k, and sell off the spare parts.

All you really is gearbox, motor, electronics and inner barrel assembly. Then pick a stock, or get the 2013 VUK and get a nice sealed buffer, Bushmaster-style stock and shortened EL-003.

Instead of trying to fix and work with an existing design, FCC with their machining capabilities, why not make their owm gun?

They do. But they also realize that the market for things like CNC bodies, inner barrels, motors, electronics and do-dads is enough to run a business all its own.

For sure. I've been thinking about making a piece by piece PTW.

Honestly, the Systema mechbox, hop-up, barrel, and electronics are a must. What does FCC make their receivers from?

Aluminum, and they do have a budget model with basic components coming soon.

i have been looking at the FCC electronics for a while now, but i just got my PTW this last winter. so i cant justify spending more money while my stuff is working just fine, although burst function would be awesome. ill more than likely wait till something fails in the electronics, then replace all of them with FCC stuff.
as far as the motors go, for now I'm happy with my DTT modded motor, and i hope that it lasts for 3-4 years, maybe by then, we will know what the best replacement is :p

FCC will be releasing their own direct competitor to the Systema PTW. Current plans with the FTW are it will come with a milspec buffer tube, shortened ecu, a Midwest Industries replica rail and no sights. The body will be a die cast from better material than what the Systema bodies are. Pricing will be around the same price as a factory built PTW. There will be more news coming in the next couple months.

Lung from FCC showed me some pictures, they are actually quite nice I'm not a fan of the midwest industries replica rail they look too much like a hybrid of VTAC and JP, i much prefer they put on a slimline rail like the TRX or Viking Tac replica.

if I'm willing to sell my soul to DTT what kind of discount do i get xD

I have the biggest, juiciest and the most bad ass steak and all the bacon jam he can get his hands on for Chris if he ever showed up in Toronto