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zakizdaman April 3rd, 2010 22:31

Crossman airsoft?
 
So, I've been looking into airsoft for quite a while now, and I have a few questions about Crossman airsoft guns.
1: Are any of the internals metal?
2: Are they good at all?
3: I've heard that the shotguns are ok, and work good with .28's.
If anyone could reply, that would be awesome lol. And i know, they are probably traps for basement tinkering and not good for OP's lol.

Strelok April 3rd, 2010 22:34

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Originally Posted by zakizdaman (Post 1202507)
So, I've been looking into airsoft for quite a while now, and I have a few questions about Crossman airsoft guns.
1: Are any of the internals metal?
2: Are they good at all?
3: I've heard that the shotguns are ok, and work good with .28's.
If anyone could reply, that would be awesome lol. And i know, they are probably traps for basement tinkering and not good for OP's lol.

Trash.

Seriously, There are so many better options out there for you.

Rugger_can April 3rd, 2010 22:35

The crossman shotgun has been used by some ASC members with success.

However, I highly suggest you avoid buying a springer if you intend on attending games. Frankly its like buying a 250cc motorcycle for your first bike. It will not satisfy you and will end up being nothing but a waste of money. Save your cash and get age verified and check the classifieds. There are some good deals to be had.

If this is for plinking and general fun. then yes the crossman shotguns are not horrible.

Lets review.

If your just buying it for shooting cans in your basement. Sure.

If your planning on going to games, save your money and get age verified. AEG's are a different world and are the best entry point for our sport.

take it from me, 11 years ago I wasted my money on a springer for my first gun and I regretted it.

Wow Im getting old, it was actually 13 years ago.. sad. It was a micro uzi springer.

zakizdaman April 3rd, 2010 22:38

Well you see, I can't get age verified - I'm only 15 (please... don't turn on your flamethrowers). I was just curious as to if the shotguns or aeg's were any good at all, Thanks though.
Btw, as for getting a gun, I'll let my parents do that, and no - Im not circumventing the system.

Rugger_can April 3rd, 2010 22:47

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Originally Posted by zakizdaman (Post 1202514)
Well you see, I can't get age verified - I'm only 15 (please... don't turn on your flamethrowers). I was just curious as to if the shotguns or aeg's were any good at all, Thanks though.
Btw, as for getting a gun, I'll let my parents do that, and no - Im not circumventing the system.

Ok thats fair.

If your parents are ok with it then Im not going to judge you.

And don't worry about flamethrowers, your allowed to be interested in the sport but just wait and take your time. I remember when I was 16 and wanted my first motorcycle. My parents forbade me so I went out and got a job, worked for 3 years and bought it with my own money on my own terms. Maybe you should consider doing the same. Because anything earned is always better then something taken/given.

:)

Gunny_McSmith April 3rd, 2010 22:49

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Originally Posted by zakizdaman (Post 1202514)
Well you see, I can't get age verified - I'm only 15 (please... don't turn on your flamethrowers). I was just curious as to if the shotguns or aeg's were any good at all, Thanks though.
Btw, as for getting a gun, I'll let my parents do that, and no - Im not circumventing the system.

Well if your parents buy for you, this means that you'll still have a airsoft gun....but meh.... be responsable with it....

BTW: I've been waiting for 2 years now.... and trust me... the wait is really good to learn airsoft related stuff....
Read the FAQ (bla bla bla...)...enjoy the forum, and when you'll be 18 you'll be a responsible airsofter.... ;)

Con Murder April 3rd, 2010 22:50

Crossman AEG is not anything like a game ready AEG. Crossman is like Duplo and quality airsoft is Lego.

zakizdaman April 3rd, 2010 22:53

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Originally Posted by Con Murder (Post 1202525)
Crossman AEG is not anything like a game ready AEG. Crossman is like Duplo and quality airsoft is Lego.

lol.
I've read around alot, its more like crossman is the glued together melted lego, and quality airsoft is metal lego, that you can actually modify lol.
I'm assuming that crossman's aren't modifyable?
And by parents buying i mean not buying illeigaly from other people w/ my money, i just mean them buying with my money.

Rugger_can April 3rd, 2010 22:55

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Originally Posted by Con Murder (Post 1202525)
Crossman AEG is not anything like a game ready AEG. Crossman is like Duplo and quality airsoft is Lego.

Bad analogy.

Dupo is lego for little kids. Its finely crafted and an excellent product for learning spacial mechanics at a young age.

Megablocks to lego would be a better one. Just saying.

Btw, Im selling a bulk lot of lego if anyone is interested..

zakizdaman April 3rd, 2010 23:07

By lego you mean airsoft parts, right?

Rugger_can April 3rd, 2010 23:14

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Originally Posted by zakizdaman (Post 1202533)
By lego you mean airsoft parts, right?

No, really lego.

Never mind, Im not trying to jack your thread with my non-airsoft related sales thread. I was just laughing because of the lego analogy and I just put up my wifes lego collection for sale.

Back on topic,

Im serious about saving up and getting some nice kit when your old enough. As for the cross man. they are cheap fun if you want to plink in the privacy of your own home. Just be responsible about it.

Personally Ive been "saving" my pennies for a few months now so I can get "back" into the game, its a drag looking at all the sexyness of these toys but its also a great motivator just to read the reviews. And theres always more to learn.

As for crossman aeg's.. Avoid them like the plauge. All clearsoft aeg's are pretty much a waste of your money.

L473ncy April 3rd, 2010 23:31

The only crosman that I would suggest is the S34P that retails for $120.

I've handled the mini MP5 AEG/AEP thing and a Crosman Spring Pistol and your probably wasting your money in those cases.

I guess it's fine if your parents are supervising you and you aren't getting into trouble, just keep it on the down low and don't boast about it. In fact there have been a few minors who have earned the privilege to play with the adults by being smart and introducing themselves properly to the community (I'm talking about "private games" not "public days" where you just have to give the field owner money and you can join in on the fray/gong show).

zakizdaman: That's actually lego, no joke, about $2000 worth of it which I would totally buy if I had kids or wanted some collectors items. I actually remember having Duplo, Megablocks, K'Nex, and Lego. The Lego eventually got mixed in with the Megablocks though and the Duplo got donated but my favourite was K'Nex.

Doombringer April 4th, 2010 00:02

Yeah the only crosman that anyone should buy is the S34P which is a clone of the Tokyo Marui M3. It often drops to about 75$ when on special. Other than that, do not buy any crosman product, not even their BBs. I have the S34P and for the price, it's very decent.

zakizdaman April 4th, 2010 00:20

ahahahaha nice. Lego, i have like a hundred pounds of that stuff.

And thanks for the support guys - i got more support here than in JOC definently lol.

CDN_Stalker April 4th, 2010 09:03

The S34P shotgun is very good for the price, and I was the one that pointed out it works great with heavier BBs, namely 0.28g and 0.30g, easy 150ft from it and the spread stays tight.

I also have the Crosman C11 Automag CO2 pistol, it's actually pretty decent too, is NBB and compact. Only drawback is the skinny little 15rd mag, but others are able to be had for about $15 per pair.

TechSeller April 4th, 2010 09:37

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1202704)
The S34P shotgun is very good for the price, and I was the one that pointed out it works great with heavier BBs, namely 0.28g and 0.30g, easy 150ft from it and the spread stays tight.

+1 A surprisingly decent gun! Picked mine up from airgunsource.com for about $80 plus the extra shells they sell.

ruinz00 May 4th, 2010 04:15

The Crosman C11 looks like it could be a good side arm. From what I've read it seems to have a few issues. It still looks like it could be a CO2 pistols, it's nice that you don't a canister in each magazine.

CDN_Stalker May 4th, 2010 08:00

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Originally Posted by ruinz00 (Post 1226242)
The Crosman C11 looks like it could be a good side arm. From what I've read it seems to have a few issues. It still looks like it could be a CO2 pistols, it's nice that you don't a canister in each magazine.

I did a lot of reading on it too before I decided to plunk $100 down on it, seemed about 1/4 of the reviews were lemons, the rest were good, so I bought it anyways since I've been having a pain in the ass time getting either of my KSC G19s back up and reliable (both have about 10,000 rounds through them, have replaced parts over the years and they've seen a lot of use, including semi regular mixes with sand) and wanted a cheap, reliable compact sidearm to fill my holster (my other GBB is a full metal KSC Mk23, which is pretty cumbersome at times). And since I play games in areas with sand once in a while, a relatively sealed NBB would keep most sand out of it.

It's a decent gun though, I haven't gamed it yet, but tried distance and ammo weights with it and it's pretty good. Chronies high though, at one point got it up to 388fps, and later with a full CO2 cartridge, only 340fps or something like that..

Huge May 4th, 2010 09:19

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Originally Posted by zakizdaman (Post 1202597)
And thanks for the support guys - i got more support here than in JOC definently lol.

I just thought it was worth mentioning. Congratulations ASC, we've come a long way.

Reckless June 6th, 2010 15:02

S34P shotgun
c11 pistol

Pulse R72 (I think...might be R76) Folder stock AK... they are a little hit and miss out of the box... but a friend bought one just to get out to a couple games ... and ended up keeping it as his go to primary for just over a year and a half ... he put a 300mm tightbore in it.. with a 76 cent silencer .. it finally died when something in the tappet plate workings broke/got too worn to cycle properly ...

flame the thing as much as you want ... I'm probably gonna grab one as a loaner when they go on sale LOL

pusangani June 6th, 2010 15:28

lol welcome to clearsoft canada

Eeyore June 6th, 2010 15:47

Sorry Pus but it makes no sense to put down $400 on a TM M3 when the Crosman shottie is the same thing and costs $100 including a can of Krylon.

pusangani June 6th, 2010 15:56

not talking about the shotty, the AK he's bragging about is a piece of shit, plastic gearbox and all!

Baows June 6th, 2010 16:10

Ahh, I love the Crosman shotgun :cool:

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4...g0092cy.th.jpg

deep in the bush June 6th, 2010 16:18

13 Years ago? Man I hear ya, I got a springer about that time. Funny thing is it still works as it is used at the winter camp. Mostly for plinking the iciciles.

BUt Rugger_can speaks volumes of useful info.

LISTEN TO THIS MAN.

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugger_can (Post 1202512)
The crossman shotgun has been used by some ASC members with success.

However, I highly suggest you avoid buying a springer if you intend on attending games. Frankly its like buying a 250cc motorcycle for your first bike. It will not satisfy you and will end up being nothing but a waste of money. Save your cash and get age verified and check the classifieds. There are some good deals to be had.

If this is for plinking and general fun. then yes the crossman shotguns are not horrible.

Lets review.

If your just buying it for shooting cans in your basement. Sure.

If your planning on going to games, save your money and get age verified. AEG's are a different world and are the best entry point for our sport.

take it from me, 11 years ago I wasted my money on a springer for my first gun and I regretted it.

Wow Im getting old, it was actually 13 years ago.. sad. It was a micro uzi springer.


Coma June 6th, 2010 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1249919)
not talking about the shotty, the AK he's bragging about is a piece of shit, plastic gearbox and all!

While its nothing to brag about, that model is lightyears ahead of the rest of the Crosman line. Its mostly TM compatible internally too.

deep in the bush June 6th, 2010 16:20

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Originally Posted by Coma (Post 1249930)
While its nothing to brag about, that model is lightyears ahead of the rest of the Crosman line. Its mostly TM compatible internally too.

Yes that's right we used some of the body to build you a Crakman so many moons ago didn't we?

ts10z June 6th, 2010 16:24

I used a few parts out of one to fix a broken used TM M3, so now I have a TM that works and a Crossman that doesnt. Seems like a good trade. Almost all the parts inside are compatable, just made of plastic, not metal. (BTW its the three metal parts I used to fix the TM, and the cover for the shell loader that was missing on the TM).

Reckless June 6th, 2010 17:39

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Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1249919)
not talking about the shotty, the AK he's bragging about is a piece of shit, plastic gearbox and all!

sorry it looked like bragging, you are very much right... they are shit, and for a year I told my friend to find something else... eventually he did, right after he found what he liked.. it finally cratered.

I just wanted to point out that it was enough to get him hooked, get him out and survived being beat on. he still loves the fit and feel of it.. so it's getting rebuilt with proper parts this winter.

once or twice a year they go on sale for under $100 .. it's crap but it's an option

pusangani June 6th, 2010 17:46

they do have potential, I put a dboys drop-in gearbox, element hopup and tightbore in one for a guy and it was actually quite competitive, but in it's stock form it is garbage.

sortie39 June 8th, 2010 03:54

a crock of poop!!!!!!!!!!!


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