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Eldin April 25th, 2010 17:02

Reccomend me a Ghillie suit
 
Just as the title says...

My budget is $200, I do some moving around, I don't want too much ghillieness on the front torso area, as I crawl alot, and camp (camping is in tents) :)
Sorry- just had to throw that in there :D


I snipe, woodland area, netting is a must (attach foliage) , any material as long as it works well!

Thanks

CDN_Stalker April 25th, 2010 17:13

Only way to go is to make your own, it'll be less than half your limit price, 1/4 of that cost if you already have BDUs to use as a base. Best is to make your own, you can tailor it to where you play, and make it unique too. If you say you don't have time to make one, then some will reply that you don't have the time to play the sniper role either.

Check this series out, is quite good:

YouTube- How to make a Ghillie Suit 1/9

krap101 April 25th, 2010 17:30

If you want, I think polyester fibers are less prone to mold and are lighter and more "breathable" I think fireproofing is also a good idea

Also, if you're going to be crawling most of the time, you can just make a "cape" rather than the full suit.

Eeyore April 25th, 2010 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by krap101 (Post 1219733)
" I think fireproofing is also a good idea"

+ 1000, you want to make sure that you spray fire retardant on your ghillie before you use it. I use to play alot of paintball and I have seen a ghillie go up in flames. Thankfully it wasn't on the guy at the time.

Eldin April 25th, 2010 17:41

Quote:

Only way to go is to make your own, it'll be less than half your limit price, 1/4 of that cost if you already have BDUs to use as a base. Best is to make your own, you can tailor it to where you play, and make it unique too. If you say you don't have time to make one, then some will reply that you don't have the time to play the sniper role either.
I started one, and I'm about half way through it.

I dyed/frayed my own burlap from scratch, but burlap is very scarce, and I need alot of it.

I checked out those same videos before I started it, but this project is discouraging because:
1. I'm going to have to start over anyways, due to some bad dyeing techniques
2. I really could spend the time working, then just take the money I made, and put it into a very nice ghillie suit (probably better than I would had previously made), and modify it to my liking with the limited resources I do have available to me.

CDN_Stalker April 25th, 2010 17:45

There aren't many "good" ghillies for sale, more to the point of them likely not to work with the area you want to use them, and you'll pay a lot for them.

Continue making yours, take apart what you have and start over again, even if you have a bad dye job, you can add those parts in later to make your ghillie look as it's supposed to, a "pile of nothing". And burlap is easy to find, maybe more difficult this time of year, but Canadian Tire, Rona, Home Depot etc. sell burlap for a good price, and most of it already has a fire retardant applied to them. You can also check out fabric stores, it'll be a bit more expensive, but is another location to buy if you need more.

Eldin April 25th, 2010 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1219747)
There aren't many "good" ghillies for sale, more to the point of them likely not to work with the area you want to use them, and you'll pay a lot for them.

Continue making yours, take apart what you have and start over again, even if you have a bad dye job, you can add those parts in later to make your ghillie look as it's supposed to, a "pile of nothing". And burlap is easy to find, maybe more difficult this time of year, but Canadian Tire, Rona, Home Depot etc. sell burlap for a good price, and most of it already has a fire retardant applied to them. You can also check out fabric stores, it'll be a bit more expensive, but is another location to buy if you need more.

Thanks for the advice, but you see, there aren't really any stores around here.

I live on an island.

BUT, I just checked and there is a coffee roasting warehouse that supposedly has some burlap bags.

I am also out of dyes :/

I just don't think it would be worth the effort

CDN_Stalker April 25th, 2010 17:59

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Originally Posted by Eldin (Post 1219750)
Thanks for the advice, but you see, there aren't really any stores around here.

I live on an island.

BUT, I just checked and there is a coffee roasting warehouse that supposedly has some burlap bags.

I am also out of dyes :/

I just don't think it would be worth the effort

It will, just be creative and picture the woods while making it. There are also friends that can pick stuff up for you and deliver/mail it such as dye, burlap and such. All you need is to ask. Me being me, I'd hate to see you blow $200 on a pre-made ghillie only to see you grossly disappointed by it.

Eldin April 25th, 2010 18:46

Thanks Stalker, your a great help.

I'm going to take it apart, and redistribute all the burlap around the suit, so I can probably get 10% burlap 90% vegetation, and just keep adding burlap until I get about 40% - 60%

I heard that shoegoo works really well, I usually hand sew everything, but my sewing jobs aren't that great.

Do you think shoegoo would work better? I've tried fabric glue, but that stuff just peels off.

krap101 April 25th, 2010 18:55

If I remember correctly, the shoe goo will work because there isn't really any load on the webbing. If you want to sew it you can though.

The Acer April 25th, 2010 19:36

Any good place to buy a Ghillie Cape if you don't have time to make one yourself?

CDN_Stalker April 25th, 2010 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin (Post 1219787)
Thanks Stalker, your a great help.

I'm going to take it apart, and redistribute all the burlap around the suit, so I can probably get 10% burlap 90% vegetation, and just keep adding burlap until I get about 40% - 60%

I heard that shoegoo works really well, I usually hand sew everything, but my sewing jobs aren't that great.

Do you think shoegoo would work better? I've tried fabric glue, but that stuff just peels off.

ShooGoo is amazing for attaching netting, much better than sewing. Is very strong, and also distributes the load of tearing over a larger area (picture a splotch of ShooGoo, typical application settles down to about 1/2" to 3/4", where sewing stays in place at maybe 1/8" of fabric), is rubbery enough to be a bit flexible, but strong enough that you will have a hard time tearing it off by hand.

Gunny_McSmith April 25th, 2010 21:55

here's a pic of my friend Ragboy (his ASC nickname)

Is this something like this that you want to build?

pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4946197...7623768914415/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4946197...7623768914415/

Eldin April 25th, 2010 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1219900)
here's a pic of my friend Ragboy (his ASC nickname)

Is this something like this that you want to build?

pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4946197...7623768914415/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4946197...7623768914415/


Yea, pretty much exactly like that, except I'm also making ghillie pants and hood, and there's some more material covering the upper torso.


Quote:

ShooGoo is amazing for attaching netting, much better than sewing. Is very strong, and also distributes the load of tearing over a larger area (picture a splotch of ShooGoo, typical application settles down to about 1/2" to 3/4", where sewing stays in place at maybe 1/8" of fabric), is rubbery enough to be a bit flexible, but strong enough that you will have a hard time tearing it off by hand.
That stuff sounds great, I'll pick some up.

PARKINGLOT April 26th, 2010 01:05

they have them for like $80 at walmart....

or there's a site I was looking at before that had great kits for like $60-70 bucks....

Steven April 26th, 2010 01:10

I made mine for around 40$ with the Help of Stalker and Fox.

I must admit, theres nothing better than standing back after your done, and seeing your work. And if done correctly, i would have to say that homemade ghillies would beat the Walmart, hunting kits anyday.

Eldin April 26th, 2010 01:32

I found myself a brown flat cap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap) and I've started to make it part of my ghillie project :)

Will post pics when done with the hat.
I'll also post pics when done with ghillie, I got a good amount of work done on it today.

The Acer April 26th, 2010 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARKINGLOT (Post 1220019)
or there's a site I was looking at before that had great kits for like $60-70 bucks....

Link Please

VooDooPeteK April 26th, 2010 03:58

when I was at Canadian Tire this weekend I did see a backpack thing that would fold over you when unhooked to provide a ghille cape type thing.

I looked on the website but couldn't find it but in store it was in the hunting section and was $49.99 or $59.99

Didn't look that bad for the price

CDN_Stalker April 26th, 2010 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin (Post 1220029)
I found myself a brown flat cap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap) and I've started to make it part of my ghillie project :)

Will post pics when done with the hat.
I'll also post pics when done with ghillie, I got a good amount of work done on it today.

You'll boil your head with that thing on. I have a cheap boonie for my ghillie, I actually had to cut the top out on it to ventilate it was so bad.

Another thing, if you are going for a hood, build it with a camo cloth bandana to cover your neck. Nothing worse than having little hairs of burlap fall onto your hot sweaty neck and drive you nuts all day long.

PARKINGLOT April 26th, 2010 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Acer (Post 1220030)
Link Please

http://www.ghilliesuitclothing.com/c...Kit-Materials/

Twin#1[Op-for] April 26th, 2010 11:47

I would never buy a pre-made ghillie. The poster Steven, ^^^^, is my brother and I watched/ helped him build his own. It is much easier to be able to die the burlap the color you want, use the materials you want that match your environment the best. It's also pretty fun, and quite an accomplishment when it's done! Overall, it only took a week or two with both of us working on it every day. I would help him for about an hour, while he would do it for around 2-3. It's really not THAT hard.

MilanWG April 26th, 2010 13:11

A tip regarding shoe-goo, use it outdoors or in a very well ventilated area. The stuff REEKS! Also, I highly recommend wearing latex gloves when applying shoe-goo because when it dries, its like another layer of skin on your hands and you will be peeling the stuff off all day. Also buy more shoe-goo than you think you need, its cheap and you tend to use a lot when building a ghillie, especially when applying and sealing your front patches.

Also want to get some non-gloss Krylon hunting camo paint to spray over the shoe-goo once it has dried because shoe-goo is very glossy/shiny and you don't want the sun to reflect off of a spot of exposed shoe-goo.

Eldin April 26th, 2010 17:15

Thanks for all the tips guys!

krap101 April 26th, 2010 17:22

If you're still looking to buy one, note that a "kit" means they give you the yarn/string/burlap and you build it yourself.

CDN_Stalker April 26th, 2010 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by TALIBANMILAN (Post 1220192)
A tip regarding shoe-goo, use it outdoors or in a very well ventilated area. The stuff REEKS! Also, I highly recommend wearing latex gloves when applying shoe-goo because when it dries, its like another layer of skin on your hands and you will be peeling the stuff off all day. Also buy more shoe-goo than you think you need, its cheap and you tend to use a lot when building a ghillie, especially when applying and sealing your front patches.

Also want to get some non-gloss Krylon hunting camo paint to spray over the shoe-goo once it has dried because shoe-goo is very glossy/shiny and you don't want the sun to reflect off of a spot of exposed shoe-goo.

I've done that too, even just a paint over with some drab model paint, but while it's shiny, it's very unlikely it'll reflect sunlight well enough to travel much past a couple feet, I'd call it more of a dull sheen you get. As long as it's covered it should be fine, and no one has seen me and said they saw a glint of sunlight off my ghillie. BTW, it's a black gloss when it's dry (to the inexperienced).

And yes, if you think one tube will do you, buy two (I know, they are $7 apiece) because likley you'll go through one and a half tubes of it, and it sucks to get on a roll after finding the time to work on your ghillie and looking forward to starting to add burlap, only to find out your netting can't be completely goo'd on because you ran out, and the stores are closed. Hehe, and yes, it's useful to have after if you need to make some adjustments of found you you didn't apply close enough (I recommend maybe every 4-6" apart). Some areas (such as edges, I suggest goo every 3" or so) you'll find will need touch ups because of flopping around or whatever, so having extra goo left over is handy.

VooDooPeteK April 28th, 2010 14:44

Also this suit works well for the $70 they have them for at walmart. And you can always add onto it later if you want.

Its not as good as making your own but works well for the player in the picture and good to go out of the package
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/...806abd337d.jpg

krap101 April 28th, 2010 15:02

Imo, it's not baggy enough. The shape is obviously humanoidish, and the point of a ghilli suit is to make a person seem more blobish.

CDN_Stalker April 28th, 2010 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by VooDooPeteK (Post 1222125)
Also this suit works well for the $70 they have them for at walmart. And you can always add onto it later if you want.

Its not as good as making your own but works well for the player in the picture and good to go out of the package
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/...806abd337d.jpg

That'd work perfectly in a sci-fi airsoft version of District 9. Lol

http://media.avclub.com/images/artic...pscale_q85.jpg

VooDooPeteK April 29th, 2010 03:50

well that picture was taken in our "Tac Town" area for more CQB, but it works well when he is trying to hide.

I am just saying on a budget it gets the job done and its a base to build on as well

Wilson April 29th, 2010 05:34

Roll your own.

Here's an upright stalk ghillie that I made for the HT member in the picture:

http://www.highlandtactical.com/images/eric_ghillie.jpg

The other team didn't like him much that game. ;)

Eldin April 29th, 2010 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson (Post 1222744)
Roll your own.

Here's an upright stalk ghillie that I made for the HT member in the picture:

http://www.highlandtactical.com/images/eric_ghillie.jpg

The other team didn't like him much that game. ;)

What kind of material did you use?

Wilson April 29th, 2010 17:32

TRU woodland jacket and pants from opsgear.com (though virtually anything can be used as a base, such as an old flight suit) and a synthetic jute kit from ghilliesuits.com (two fantastic websites).

I also build ghillie suits for those interested, but the most cost effective and satisfying approach to getting one is building it yourself.

Always remember to include fresh, natural vegetation from the area you will be operating in. Spend enough time crawling around and this will happen automatically (as branches, leaves, grass, mud, etc. get caught in the ghillie), but some care should be taken before the game to ensure you are properly adjusted to your AO.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ged-sniper.jpg

Eldin June 16th, 2010 22:48

So after a couple months of slaving away at my ghillie suit, it is finished!!
I'm really quite proud of it :D And it works great.
I'll post some pics up soon.

CDN_Stalker June 17th, 2010 07:47

Cool, congrats! Get them up!!! :)

Omnivorous June 21st, 2010 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by VooDooPeteK (Post 1222125)
Also this suit works well for the $70 they have them for at walmart. And you can always add onto it later if you want.

Its not as good as making your own but works well for the player in the picture and good to go out of the package
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/...806abd337d.jpg

I got this suit in an XL and it's SUPER baggy and works wonderfully. That guy's suit is way to small for him just judging by the length of sleeves compared to his arms. It's a decent brand name too and it's meant for foliage, trees, and branches. It's green enough you can wear it all summer and brown enough you can wear it in the fall. It's sweet!

Oh, and it's been on sale at Walmart for a while. I got it for $40. Gonna be hard to beat that.

Kit June 21st, 2010 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnivorous (Post 1258930)
I got this suit in an XL and it's SUPER baggy and works wonderfully. That guy's suit is way to small for him just judging by the length of sleeves compared to his arms. It's a decent brand name too and it's meant for foliage, trees, and branches. It's green enough you can wear it all summer and brown enough you can wear it in the fall. It's sweet!

Oh, and it's been on sale at Walmart for a while. I got it for $40. Gonna be hard to beat that.


He made a suit already lol.

Assault Pioneer June 21st, 2010 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by VooDooPeteK (Post 1222125)
Also this suit works well for the $70 they have them for at walmart. And you can always add onto it later if you want.

Its not as good as making your own but works well for the player in the picture and good to go out of the package
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/...806abd337d.jpg

I have that stuff and wear it like an "advanced bdu" NOT a ghillie, it's a little better than normal digital camo is some cases but will never offer the camoflauge the homemade ghillie can.

Huge June 22nd, 2010 00:42

I am in the process of building my own ghillie suit and was wondering if I got everything right. What i need is :

BDU
netting (I heard volleyball net works fine)
Shoegoo
Burlap
Dyes (where do you get them and what colors?)

You use shoegoo to fix the net on the BDU. You then dye the burlap, cut it into pieces and attach them on to the netting (sew them or ?).

CDN_Stalker June 22nd, 2010 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huge (Post 1259193)
I am in the process of building my own ghillie suit and was wondering if I got everything right. What i need is :

BDU
netting (I heard volleyball net works fine)
Shoegoo
Burlap
Dyes (where do you get them and what colors?)

You use shoegoo to fix the net on the BDU. You then dye the burlap, cut it into pieces and attach them on to the netting (sew them or ?).

RitDye, in Kelley green, medium brown, find at craft stores, Walmart, etc.

And you tie the strips with a simple overhand knot onto the netting, one or two every couple squares (depending on square size).

Huge June 22nd, 2010 11:09

so only one green and one brown and i'm good to go?

CDN_Stalker June 22nd, 2010 11:31

Depends on if you are doing top and bottom, might need two of each. Add in undyed burlap too.

FOX_111 June 22nd, 2010 17:02

Use mostly brown and tan as the ground on most fields is that way. The green you can add with the local vegetation.

I used Krylon spray and other colors of spray paint. It's good on the jute and the colors turn out very good. Like OD to make brown, bright green to make green and I leave the jute alone to make some tan.

zollen June 22nd, 2010 17:27

This would be perfect for you. The face mask would be perfect for hunting.

http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content.../chewbacca.jpg

Eldin July 19th, 2010 16:31

Pics are inbound...

outlander94 July 23rd, 2010 13:38

I find that most hockey nets have good netting if your willing to cannibalize it.

Anyways my buddy up in cottage country made one with some old camo clothing cut up and sewed to a camo turtle neck and pants the only problem is that it only works with his local greenery every where else it stands out to much

Eldin August 9th, 2010 23:13

Here's my ghillie :D , not a very good picture, but there's some more incoming.

I'm thinking of putting some ghillie on the upper arms, and making some ghillie pants.

I have a gun wrap that I made that matches the ghillie suit perfectly, I just didn't have it done when this was taken.
My face needs a bit more concealment, I've tried full face veils, but they tend to get too hot and fog up my goggles...
The hands stand out in this picture, but I'm usually wearing gloves so that's not a problem on the field.

Any feedback welcome, how could I improve it?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2783287_n.jpg

Aegiis August 10th, 2010 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin (Post 1292885)
Here's my ghillie :D , not a very good picture, but there's some more incoming.

I'm thinking of putting some ghillie on the upper arms, and making some ghillie pants.

I have a gun wrap that I made that matches the ghillie suit perfectly, I just didn't have it done when this was taken.
My face needs a bit more concealment, I've tried full face veils, but they tend to get too hot and fog up my goggles...
The hands stand out in this picture, but I'm usually wearing gloves so that's not a problem on the field.

Any feedback welcome, how could I improve it?

While I'm not a ghillie expert, for your face you should use camstick, because IMHO too much material will :

1-Prevent your field of vision
2-Prevent adequate breathing

My 2 cents

Eldin August 10th, 2010 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegiis (Post 1293400)
While I'm not a ghillie expert, for your face you should use camstick, because IMHO too much material will :

1-Prevent your field of vision
2-Prevent adequate breathing

My 2 cents

I would really prefer not to use facepaint, but when I come to think about it, it's the only thing that would work without getting too hot or obscuring my vision.

Is the camstick stuff easy to wash off? I just don't want it to be a hassle to get off, or have to go the next week with green eyebrows :D

FOX_111 August 11th, 2010 00:26

It wash up with normal baby whipes or any humid wipes.

Camoing the skin is essencial.


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