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rokor December 8th, 2010 18:44

Importing question.
 
So I've been thinking; what's stopping Canadians from crossing the border and importing airsoft parts? I know that it is illegal, and I have no intention of doing it myself, but what really is the chance of being caught? It seems to me that if a family went shopping in America for the holiday season and brought back a metal body, GBBP, or other restricted parts, there would be no reason for the patrol officer to be suspicious and they would be on their way(unless of course, they were selected to be randomly searched). I'm just curious...

Tex December 8th, 2010 18:47

what is stopping you from doing the same thing with firearms, drugs, people ect ect ?

R.I.T.Z December 8th, 2010 18:48

only certain parts are restricted, and what to stop them? you have to declare what you bought, if the officer decides to check certain things he/she is allowed.
if you do not declare an item you are smuggling it and committing a crime

as for whats stop us? the fact that if we get caught we're fucked.

TokyoSeven December 8th, 2010 18:49

I always declare the people I import.

Girock December 8th, 2010 18:49

Bravo !!!
Im thinking about doing the same with juvenile porn !

bob1212295 December 8th, 2010 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokor (Post 1365732)
I know that it is illegal

Then you also know the answer

L473ncy December 8th, 2010 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 1365735)
I always declare the people I import.

Then you've brought back a Robert Goulet or two I take it?

@OP: I take it you don't mind the subsequent rubber glove treatment if you get caught then? True "the chances are....." but there are also the chances that you win the lotter too ("OMG, there's a *chance* to win 6 Million dollars"). Is it really worth it for the chance to get put on a list somewhere?

EDIT: Also.... I don't know for you but for me I absolutely *can't* have a criminal record, especially when I eventually apply for a professional designation (cause criminal records aren't cool). However you or Joe Schmoe from down the street are free to chance it. For things like being some office gopher it's probably not that bad but if you ever want to be a professional (ie. Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer, Surveyor, Teacher, Accountant etc.), past criminal records (especially for smuggling) aren't cool.

OscarMike December 8th, 2010 19:03

With the currency exchange rate...You WILL be stopped and searched.
:::I am going to sit and wait for the field day to start:::

rokor December 8th, 2010 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob1212295 (Post 1365738)
Then you also know the answer

Maybe in your perfect world where every single citizen follows every single law, carefully...

And that's what I figured. I knew that they could easily search you, but I just thought something was different.

"what is stopping you from doing the same thing with firearms, drugs, people ect ect ?"

Firearms, first of all, are a lot harder to acquire than plastic shooting toys. They also cost more, making it more logical to import in larger quantaties. Larger quantaties=harder to hide...

People, simply are identified with just that; identification.

And drugs are already being imported. You only hear about the very small percentage that actually get siezed.

For those of you that actually helped, thanks. I knew that you'd get in shit if you were caught, I just wasn't sure exactly how you would. Now I know that it's pretty much the same thing that I thought before. Thanks. :)

TokyoSeven December 8th, 2010 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1365746)
Then you've brought back a Robert Goulet or two I take it?


A few here and there

As well as a couple of unique collectors versions too. Full beard and clean shaven.

Stealthee December 8th, 2010 19:20

One of my co-workers went to the States for Black Friday. Her van was so full that you couldn't see the rear window. At the border, the officer asked: "Alright, how much booze?", she told him how many and he just told her to go. I'm guessing she could have gotten away with some stuff, since they didn't check her van and it wasn't all just alcohol. :D

HKGhost December 8th, 2010 19:48

there's always a risk. Some win, some lose.

kullwarrior December 8th, 2010 20:07

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Originally Posted by HKGhost (Post 1365784)
there's always a risk. Some win, some lose.

You can lose your money for import
You can win a criminal record...

Eeyore December 8th, 2010 20:11

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Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1365799)
You can lose your money for import
You can win a criminal record...

You can also lose your freedom.
And win a date with Bubba in cell block B.

kullwarrior December 8th, 2010 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eeyore (Post 1365801)
You can also lose your freedom.

Reiterate my statement on criminal record
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eeyore (Post 1365801)
And win a date with Bubba in cell block B.

FYI, Homesexual acts are not illegal since 1960s, Not every gay person is criminal, same goes with all criminal are gay

AoiShikaku December 8th, 2010 23:07

well border crossing is at a chance of a random search.. Really depends on the person.. I've only been stopped once in my life from crossing back and forth at Niagra Falls.... now what about the odds of beating it through international mail??? or are all airsoft guns found?

(only thing I ever really went overboard was on were 10 cartons of cigarettes ^___^ )

TokyoSeven December 8th, 2010 23:14

Border services is not perfect. Parcels do make it through. I would say the odds of a parcel making it through the mail successfully are less than those for a person trying to smuggle.

Neither method is recommended.

However you are welcome to try, after all its not like its my money your throwing in the garbage.

redzaku December 8th, 2010 23:35

Just think of this man, you are contibuting to Canada's economy by buying in Canada

SniperSam December 8th, 2010 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealthee (Post 1365763)
One of my co-workers went to the States for Black Friday. Her van was so full that you couldn't see the rear window. At the border, the officer asked: "Alright, how much booze?", she told him how many and he just told her to go. I'm guessing she could have gotten away with some stuff, since they didn't check her van and it wasn't all just alcohol. :D


When I was moving back to Canada we had the standard moving truck from Penske, loaded to the brim with arm chairs, a couch, two fridges, computers, boxes, bins, some tools, etc. They didn't stop us to check everything inside, they didn't even open it up, they just asked for the inventory of the tools we were bringing.

-_- really...

AlLeBlanc December 8th, 2010 23:52

4 years ago, not really knowing what airsoft was, I brought back from France a KWA M9 in my luggages. Not one problem. I was lucky. Thought now knowing a lot more about laws and such, I wouldn't take any chance. Then again, I'm a very careful person.
What I'm trying to say is if you try ( i do not condone this act), and shit goes wrong, assume. If you're not capable of that, then don't try; simple as that.

Tex December 8th, 2010 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokor (Post 1365757)
Maybe in your perfect world where every single citizen follows every single law, carefully...

And that's what I figured. I knew that they could easily search you, but I just thought something was different.

"what is stopping you from doing the same thing with firearms, drugs, people ect ect ?"

Firearms, first of all, are a lot harder to acquire than plastic shooting toys. They also cost more, making it more logical to import in larger quantaties. Larger quantaties=harder to hide... you did not ask about importing you asked "what is stopping you from smuggling airsoft in"

People, simply are identified with just that; identification. again you are talking about illegally bring something across you do not ID an illegal person

And drugs are already being imported. You only hear about the very small percentage that actually get siezed.and this is the reason you think you can get away with smuggling airsoft right?

For those of you that actually helped, thanks. I knew that you'd get in shit if you were caught, I just wasn't sure exactly how you would. Now I know that it's pretty much the same thing that I thought before. Thanks. :)

being 15 you really should stop trying to think of ways to get airsoft illegally if you did try this and got caught do you think they would just say "oh well he is just a minor" and let you go or charge the adult with you?

rokor December 8th, 2010 23:59

I don't understand why you're coming at me so aggressively. I'll say it again, I have no intention of doing this, it was just soemthing I wanted to clear up.

Matt 'Maverick' Watts December 9th, 2010 00:06

Cross the border 19 times with prohibited stuff, be it airsoft or not, and don't get caught = 'this is easy, I should do this more'
Cross the border with prohibited stuff and get caught = criminal record, inability to get a passport = NEVER being able to leave the country again.
Smuggling is federal offence and carries federal charges, minor or not. This will apply to both the driver and the person that the goods are tied to.

Don't believe me? Keep trying it until you get pulled over and see what happens.

rokor December 9th, 2010 00:08

And you assume that I smuggled prohibited goods accross the border, because?

TokyoSeven December 9th, 2010 00:11

9.5 times out of 10 when a person creates a thread like this its not because they want to clear things up, its because they are researching more information on something they intent on doing.

redzaku December 9th, 2010 00:13

Just shut up you've got your answer, or else people will brand you as an idiot

Strelok December 9th, 2010 00:15

^^ He would know.

rokor December 9th, 2010 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 1365962)
9.5 times out of 10 when a person creates a thread like this its not because they want to clear things up, its because they are researching more information on something they intent on doing.

Fair enough.

And to be honest, I could care less what you think of me. This is the internet, and I don't think I'm going to loose sleep over a random e-thug calling me an idiot.

And once again, thanks to those of you who actually contributed to this thread. Appreciated.

Matt 'Maverick' Watts December 9th, 2010 00:54

Rokor, I never said that you smuggled anything. I never assumed that you had. From your original post, you certainly stated that you were 'wondering what's stopping Canadians' so I told you what's stopping Canadians.

This may be the internet, but airsoft in Canada is a small community. Best of luck.

Infidel December 9th, 2010 00:55

Hey kid, this community is very pro legal means of obtaining things and VERY against illegal means.

Also you answered your own question, smuggling ANYTHING is illegal.

~Infidel

Elmaestro December 9th, 2010 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 1365999)

smuggling ANYTHING is illegal.

~Infidel

Smuggling: the act of illegally transporting goods.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 1365999)

illegally transporting ANYTHING is illegal.

~Infidel

Well thank you for the enlightenment captain obvious.

pusangani December 9th, 2010 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmaestro (Post 1366011)
Smuggling: the act of illegally transporting goods.



Well thank you for the enlightenment captain obvious.

It wasn't so obvious to the OP now was it, now fuck off, no one here cares for your dollar store wit.

Elmaestro December 9th, 2010 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1366012)
It wasn't so obvious to the OP now was it, now fuck off, no one here cares for your dollar store wit.

the op was obviously aware of the illegality of such action. He was just being a jackass trying to see if anybody here knew "a guy" or "a way" to cross illegal shiet into Canada.

Fuck off.

pusangani December 9th, 2010 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmaestro (Post 1366015)
Fuck off.

heehehhe, how original, if I wanted my comeback I'd have wiped it off your girl's chin

SniperSam December 9th, 2010 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1366019)
heehehhe, how original, if I wanted my comeback I'd have wiped it off your girl's chin

epic

Elmaestro December 9th, 2010 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1366019)
heehehhe, how original, if I wanted my comeback I'd have wiped it off your girl's chin

How original, have you considered suing your brains for non-support?

pusangani December 9th, 2010 01:56

lol you could try suing ASC for non-support, since nobody is going to even though you just donated hehehhhehe

Elmaestro December 9th, 2010 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1366023)
lol you could try suing ASC for non-support, since nobody is going to even though you just donated hehehhhehe

What I find funny is that at some point you thought "well, YOU could try suing...umm..ASC for non-support hehehehe yeah that's good!" before posting what would be your perfect comeback.

Try harder.

Strelok December 9th, 2010 02:05

Jesus christ, its like highschool all over again.

Elmeistro, this is putting you in the wrong spotlight i'm afraid. As for pusangani antics, we're used to it! Hahaha.

pusangani December 9th, 2010 02:07

hehehehe I took your weak brain support joke and made it into something awesome, kinda like how I turned this thread from a typical noob thread into the embarassment of you :)

burningashes December 9th, 2010 02:08

http://www.aquabacon.com/wp-content/...t-argument.jpg

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/images/...cornsmiley.gif

Daiviet December 9th, 2010 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmaestro (Post 1366025)
What I find funny is that at some point you thought "well, YOU could try suing...umm..ASC for non-support hehehehe yeah that's good!" before posting what would be your perfect comeback.

Try harder.

Wow. From your comments in this thread and the other one you made, you're not making any friends fast. Keep in mind that the people reading your comments, are the ones you'll be playing alongside. No one is going to invite you out if you feel like you have to retort to everything anyone says. How you present yourself online is how people will perceive you in real life.

Elmaestro December 9th, 2010 02:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daiviet (Post 1366030)
Wow. From your comments in this thread and the other one you made, you're not making any friends fast. Keep in mind that the people reading your comments, are the ones you'll be playing alongside. No one is going to invite you out if you feel like you have to retort to everything anyone says. How you present yourself online is how people will perceive you in real life.

No worries, no foul play.

Daiviet December 9th, 2010 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmaestro (Post 1366011)
Well thank you for the enlightenment captain obvious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmaestro (Post 1366033)
No worries, no foul play.

Well, mouthing off to senior members about something trivial certainly isn't gaining you any points.

burningashes December 9th, 2010 02:19

Im disappointed in you guys for turning this from shit slinging into politically correct dialogue. I just opened a new bag of popcorn.

Infidel December 9th, 2010 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmaestro (Post 1366011)
Smuggling: the act of illegally transporting goods.



Well thank you for the enlightenment captain obvious.

Hey,

Just so you know that something that is obvious to you doesn't mean that it will be obvious to other people.

~Infidel

rokor December 9th, 2010 07:54

Some people just don't get the point. I have not, nor do I plan on smuggling anything prohibited accross the border. If you think I do, keep it to youreself and stop posting useless bullshit in this thread that just keeps on repeating itself. It has been fun watching you guys argue about it though :p

kalnaren December 9th, 2010 08:21

It's stopping us because most of us are old enough and mature enough to realize the consequences of doing so.

We're talking steep fines, jail time, and criminal records.

Maybe for someone who lives at home that's not a terrible outcome. For some of us here, a criminal record would very much end our career.

Does that answer your question?

TokyoSeven December 9th, 2010 11:53

Ugh...this is what happens when I go to bed early.

Youre all morons.

Grow up.


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