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Cilantro February 12th, 2011 23:17

Src aks74u gbbr UPDATE PAGE 4
 
SRC AKS74U Review

Real Steel Info & History
(Courtesy of http://world.guns.ru)

Caliber: 5,45x39 mm
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Overall length: 735 mm (490 mm with folded buttstock)
Barrel length: 210 mm
Magazine capacity, 30 rounds standard
Weight empty: 2,71 kg
Effective range: about 200 meters
Rate of fire: 650-735 rounds per minute

The AKS-74U short assault rifle (the "U" suffix means "Ukorochennyj" in Russian or "Shortened" in English) has been developed in the late 1970s from the AKS-74 assault rifle. The AKS-74U was intended as a personal defense weapon for tank, gun, helicopter and other vehicle crews, and for the special operations forces, which required compact but relatively powerful individual automatic weapon. Since its introduction the AKS-74U, unofficially known as a "Ksyukha" (variation of a Russian woman name) or "okurok" (cigarette stub), also had been issued to various Police and other Law Enforcement forces acres the USSR and the Post-USSR countries, including Russia. The AKS-74U is somewhat popular among its users due to its compact size, which allows it to be carried in the cars and even concealed under the clothes. On the other side, its effective range of fire is greatly limited by the poor accuracy at ranges beyond 150-200 meters, while the bullet itself remains lethal at much greater ranges. The AKS-74U is also known for its tendency for rapid overheating when firing in bursts. The AKS-74U has only minor differences from the basic AKS-74 assault rifle, which will describe below.
The AKS-74U has a severely shortened barrel, with the gas chamber moved back and appropriately cut down gas piston rod. Since the portion of the barrel after the gas port is very short, a special muzzle device was designed, which is used as a flash hider and gas expansion chamber (to achieve reliable gas operated action). The front sight base is lowered, and the standard adjustable rear sight is replaced by a flip-up rear sight marked for 200 and 400 meters distance, mounted on the receiver cover. The receiver cover is hinged to the receiver at the front and flips up when opened. Otherwise the AKS-74U is similar to the AKS-74; it has same controls, folding buttstock, and uses the same magazines. The AKS-74U cannot be fitted with bayonet. Some versions had a standard side-mounted rail for the night or red-dot scopes, and are known as AKS-74UN.


SRC AKS74U
Unboxing & Externals
After ordering the gun from 007airsoft, I was giddy like a schoolgirl for the next week and a bit until I got a ring from the doorbell during the year’s worst blizzard. Kudos to the delivery man, by the way. The box itself has a nice glossy image on the front, but seeing as it was turned inside out for shipping, I didn’t really notice or care. The gun was loose in SRC’s standard AK Styrofoam shell, but was pretty secure. The rear sight leaf had however chewed up a bit of the Styrofoam, so the gun had annoyingly static flakes all over the body. As I picked up the gun to wipe it clean I was amazed by the weight and feel of this thing: as in six to midnight amazed. The unloaded weight is probably 4 – 5 lbs, and the magazine adds at least another pound to that weight.
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Beauty Shot! Also paracord not included, I just hate cold metal cheekrests
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Other side beauty shot!

The front handguard is real wood and has an amazing finish to it, I can’t comment on the kind of wood, but the fit and finish are excellent and even go through to the inside portions. This gun feels amazingly solid, although once extended and locked the stock did have some slight wobble that was easily fixed with electrician’s tape.
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Look at all that shiny wood….

The magazine was secured in its own niche and again looks and feels great. The black polymer/plastic has a matte finish and the bottomplate is metal, which is great if you drop it. The pistol grip is a very shiny black plastic and extremely thin by airsoft standards, as it doesn’t have to fit a motor in it.
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Magazine top
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Magazine bottom!

The finish to the metal is a nice matte black, although I might try to blue it this summer if it looks like it’ll take. After a few days of dismantling for the internals and trying to take apart the whole thing, I realized that the finish came off in a few areas, most notably the release knob at the rear of the upper receiver (which must be slapped down to effectively lock the upper) and at the front sling point after putting on a very tight and very rough classic AK sling replica.
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Paint wearing on the knob, to be expected as far as I’m concerned

The manual is full colour, and apart from some pictures of questionable men with AKs, is actually quite informative and has a good layout.
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Obligatory is-this-steel shot. Anythign with a magnet is steel. Fake prize for the first person who gets the sentence right!!

Pros:
- full metal with a nice finish
- most gorgeous wood handguard I’ve seen
- great heft and solid feel to it
- good manual

Cons:
- slight wobble in the stock once extended
- finish on the gun comes off relatively easily

Overall external quality: 4.5/5


Function

The first time I racked the bolt on this weapon I was in heaven. The feel, the tension and the satisfying sound of the whole business was and is probably one of the best parts about this gun. As a collector I’m thrilled that I can finally have an as-real-as-I-can-get AKS74U. I also like the idea of SRC’s boltstop function, but I wish it was a button I could slick on or off, like on the WA-Magna type AR systems as the bolt is effectively just hitting the top of the magazine and it also interferes with that amazing rack-n-slap that I like so much.
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Boltstop in action

As for the actual firing, the trigger pull on the SRC AKS74U is also a dream: very short creep and a short stroke (0.7cm overall). The pull is also extremely light at about 0.5 to 1lb, if I’m any judge. The magazine fills gas from the bottom and my Airsoft Innovations propane adapter had no problems with fitting or making a tight seal. The magazine holds a lot of gas and each magazine-full will outlast the 45 rounds that fit in the magazine. Oh, and the magazine fits in tightly, no wobbles at all.
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Trigger closeup

Loading the magazine from a speedloader requires the SRC adapter nubbin that comes in the package (with, conveniently, a speedloader). The nubbin pretty much moves the BB follower out of the way and still makes the whole thing a bit of an ordeal, seeing as you have to have the speedloader perpendicular to the magazine: a direct contravention of everything ever taught in airsoft. It’s easy to get used to, but still has its issues, as sometimes the BBs won’t feed in and you have to reseat the speedloader.
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Magazine bottom, close up of fill valve
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close up of rear

The hop-up unit is very easily accessible: just open the bolt and it’s right there, which is useful, but also has a very bad habit of resetting itself once the gun has shot for a bit. The bolt slamming back and forth sometimes grabs the hop-up adjustment rod and pulls it back to 0. I’m not sure if cutting off the knob at the end will help, but I will try it and report back any changes as this is a detrimental issue for gaming.
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Bolt back and hop up

Which brings up another issue: inserting the magazine. Every time you insert the magazine it has to hinge from the front, which would be fine and very AK-like if it wasn’t for the bolt getting in the way and causing resistance to the mag hinging back. This makes it feel like the magazine is put under stress, and while I’m NOT saying anything against the durability of the mags, at $50 a piece, it’s not something I feel like rigorously testing, either. One related point about the magazines is that the front lip of the magazine is part of the plastic casing and not the metal feedlips/top so I have some concerns about the durability of this part, and I’m frankly shocked SRC didn’t make this part of the top assembly and not part of the shell.
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close up of the front lip on the magazine…

Disassembly is awesome for this gun. Just pop the knob at the back, lift the upper and you can take out the spring, spring guide and bolt complete with fake piston! The bolt is mostly metal with plastic nozzle assembly, but it’s a very thick plastic, which feels great. The hammer and springs also feel very tough and durable, which is a welcome feeling as these parts will be under the most stress. Reassembly is as easy as me not having to write it down for you… it’s that easy.
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Bolt, spring & Guide
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Bolt & fake piston
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Bolt underside
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Bolt inside AK
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Different angle
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Gutz!
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More Gutz!
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Even more gutz!

Pros:
- Amazing feel to the bolt and trigger, easily the best from a stock rifle I’ve seen
- Great capacity for mags in terms of ammo and gas storage

Cons:
- hop-up resets itself after bolt moves
- mags can be hard to insert and have plastic lips

Overall Function: 4/5 pending durability tests


Shooting & Range Report

I will not be publishing a true range report until the weather gets better as this is a gas gun and the range/fps will suffer and I am also missing a basement :(. However I can say that shooting this rifle is a dream come true. The bolt slams back and forth perfectly, the guns loads well (no misfeeds yet) and full auto is possibly the most fun I’ve had since my KSC MP9. It eats up my BBBastards well and puts them down consistently and accurately. The bolststop works well and I haven’t had any problems with it malfunctioning or just plain not working.
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Take that Dr. Dodgson! “Psychotic” am I!? “Borderline schizophrenic” am I!? BANG BANG BA….oh right…

Pros:
- shoots well, feels great: what more can I say :P

Cons:
- none yet, pending real range report for strength/accuracy and durability

Overall Shooting: 5/5 Shooting this gets me moist like a nun at the Vatican


Conclusion

It’s easy to see that SRC have really done their homework from the gameable bolststop function to the close-to-real-steel takedown and piston, but there are a few things they overlooked to. As a collector’s item, this piece should be in every safe or on every wall as it is the best-looking AK I’ve come across. The lack of trades may seem annoying but it also means I can engrave my own serial # and Tula Arsenal symbol, so I don’t mind. As for gaming, It’s still too early in the season to say, but there are also some real gamekillers on the SRC AKS74U such as the plastic magazine lips and automatic hop-up reset feature :P. I’m sure there will be garage-solutions about these issues soon, but they should have also been obvious to SRC from the start. Only time will tell if this gets picked up by players and OEM companies, but I have a feeling that this will soon get overshadowed by WE’s entries into the GBBR AK world. As it stands now though, this little beastie is an amazing replica and it’s just too much fun to pull a Xenia Onatopp on a roomful of paper engineers :P

*More will be added as I do range reports and take this baby apart!*

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I just like the piston, it’s a nice touch.

cjboi February 12th, 2011 23:35

nice work!

Cilantro February 14th, 2011 20:43

Man, I can't believe people aren't excited about this gun...well I can, actually. SRC is infamous for their crummy release advertising :P. Anyway, thought I'd do a little update as I'm in the process of pimping the sh*t out of this to make the sexiest AKSU ever seen by man or beast, and people might want to know about OEM fitment. So far I can confirm that the Element SAW-style grip fits with VERY little modding (cut the front nubbins) and that black the DBoy black ribbed foreguard fits excellently with minor modding. The top needed some sanding down on the inside to fit the piston tube and the bottom needed some small shaving on the front to fit! Also, this gun is a real b*tch to replace the bottom front foreguard.... but I'll explain with pics soon. Also shootan pics and/or vids soon.

Disco_Dante February 14th, 2011 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cilantro (Post 1408774)
SRC AKS74U Review
it’s just too much fun to pull a Xenia Onatopp on a roomful of paper engineers :P

You're a sick, sick man! And I can't wait to see how it looks with the ribbed handguard, I love that SLR look.

sixb0nes February 15th, 2011 12:30

Thanks very much for this review, well done.

Gunny_McSmith February 15th, 2011 13:16

I'm very interested in this gun.... but.... I want the AK47.... not 74...lol

cbcsteve February 15th, 2011 13:33

I have been searching around but have no clue where to find extra mags for that

Cilantro February 15th, 2011 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbcsteve (Post 1410419)
I have been searching around but have no clue where to find extra mags for that


Although it's not listed, Ken sells them and can also get SRC parts. Also Capital Airsoft sells them and they're a great price as far as GBBR mags go.

Gunny_McSmith February 15th, 2011 14:13

WGC shop also has them i think...

Thenooblord February 15th, 2011 14:49

looks like a nice build, definatley would be my first choice over that WE pile of shit they are releasing soon

Slow February 15th, 2011 14:51

Looks like a nice gun. Not a big fan of the finish on the wood but that mit just be the light.

cjboi February 15th, 2011 15:30

Airsoft Evike.com- SRC AKS-74U GBB review

YouTube - Airsoft Evike.com- SRC AKS-74U GBB review

sixb0nes February 15th, 2011 18:03

Yikes. Watching the (somewhat serious, I'd say) issues with the mag and hopup from that Evike review really turns me off. What a buzzkill :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjboi (Post 1410475)
Airsoft Evike.com- SRC AKS-74U GBB review

YouTube - Airsoft Evike.com- SRC AKS-74U GBB review


Ninja_En_Short February 15th, 2011 18:37

Just wait for some Ra-Tech upgrades.
Or wait for a WE version that will come for sure. Although WE would have to rethink the internals, I don't see how they could adapt the M16 one there...

hattrick February 16th, 2011 18:36

Curious, why the hate over the WE open bolt system?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Thenooblord (Post 1410459)
looks like a nice build, definatley would be my first choice over that WE pile of shit they are releasing soon


cjboi February 17th, 2011 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixb0nes (Post 1410585)
Yikes. Watching the (somewhat serious, I'd say) issues with the mag and hopup from that Evike review really turns me off. What a buzzkill :(


ya well for now its the best AK out there, until we see what KWA has in store...

Cinco Boy February 17th, 2011 14:59

Inserting the magazine is a pain, I'll agree with that, kind of makes me nervous. I have yet to game mine so I can't say much about quality, hopefully this isn't another GHK.

Morfiuss February 23rd, 2011 00:56

I'm in love. Nice AK. Im looking to get the AEG version soon and hope that it will be just as cool.

Thenooblord February 23rd, 2011 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by hattrick (Post 1411322)
Curious, why the hate over the WE open bolt system?

WE uses shitty materials and shittier fitting and QC, the open bolt system and the hopup it uses are great, only because its copied from TM pistols, but the internals of the trigger mechanism will always be shit, and me and most people i know who own WE, open or closed, have had nothing but problems, broken triggers, broken valve knovkers, broken disconnectors, and in the case of the M14, the whole trigger box splitting in half, I could go on but it would derail the thread, and me just posting this is probably going to be answered by a chorus of "all your guns break cause you fuck with them" and to that I respond pre-emptivley: i only fuck with my guns AFTER they break, which in most cases for my WEs is less than a day after I get them, within the first 5k rounds fired, mainly because I shoot my guns, alot, not hang them on a wall... there i go getting derailed again, so I'll just shut up

Disco_Dante February 23rd, 2011 01:23

I'll be the first to say that you aren't a bad gun doctor, but you just have bad luck with the WE rifles. I had a closed bolt M4 and had no problems with it, and the general consensus on these boards seem to run parallel to my experience.

kullwarrior February 23rd, 2011 01:26

Well TNB Im not going to say against you, but It's kinda what you expect when you use pot metal on those parts.
There's a reason for steel mechanism, or in FNH case for P90 high quality fibre reinforced polymer

The SRC, I handled them, was really disappointed with it. Quality just wasn't there especially the magazine, cheap plastic (lower grade than G&P AK74) the tabs isn't reinforced, the firearm version uses reinforced with steel for a reason.

Thenooblord February 23rd, 2011 01:40

RAtech steel upgrade parts do alot for the reliability of the WE rifles, but on my M14, I've only broken every part that RAtech DOESN'T make, lol
i guess in regular useage a WE rifle can be a fine choice, just not if you fire alot like me, to put that in perspective, the weekend I got my M14, I put THREE cans of propane through it, and the bolt catch was a total goner, then the next part broke in the first game, id place this point at around 3000 shots or so

ShelledPants February 23rd, 2011 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thenooblord (Post 1415828)
i only fuck with my guns AFTER they break, which in most cases for my WEs is less than a day after I get them, within the first 5k rounds fired, mainly because I shoot my guns

You fire 5k rounds in under a day? That's 166 mags worth. That's an hour and a half worth of loading at 30 seconds to load a mag. Not to mention at least 3 or 4 tanks of propane. How often to do you clean your gun in this time frame?

Brian McIlmoyle February 23rd, 2011 15:26

I've been bitten once by CRAP AK GBBR.. I have a GHK .. beautiful gun has never fired more than 1 mag .. Relegated to training prop now.

I'm resisting the SRC......

Ill hold out for the WE product, I'm a believer in their products.. as anyone who has had a look in my armoury would attest.

cjboi February 23rd, 2011 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1416163)
I've been bitten once by CRAP AK GBBR.. I have a GHK .. beautiful gun has never fired more than 1 mag .. Relegated to training prop now.

I'm resisting the SRC......

Ill hold out for the WE product, I'm a believer in their products.. as anyone who has had a look in my armoury would attest.

I gotta agree with you on this... WE and KWA should do just fine as far as AK GBB go

Thenooblord February 23rd, 2011 17:03

well the SRCs main issues seem to be the hopup and mag, the hopup issue can be solved my some simple tweaking to get it to shoot straight, and it was probably the specific one they tested that shot to the side, and then locktite to keep the adjustor in place, and as for the mags, i guess just be careful with them, because the trigger group looks to be made out of decent quality metal, so the the rest of the gun looks like it should last

@shelledpants
I should have said the weekend i got them, but yes, a combination of dry and live fire, I regreased it as soon as I got it, then since I have nothing better to do, i just spent the whole weekend shooting it and having fun with it, and i probably regreased the face of the hammer and the bolt track atleast twice

kullwarrior February 24th, 2011 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1416163)
I've been bitten once by CRAP AK GBBR.. I have a GHK .. beautiful gun has never fired more than 1 mag .. Relegated to training prop now.

I'm resisting the SRC......

Ill hold out for the WE product, I'm a believer in their products.. as anyone who has had a look in my armoury would attest.

External air still holds true for AKs, only regret for having it now is that it's an ak, don't want aks anymore...
GHK is poop
SRC looks like a poop that doesn't smell so bad....
GHK Ver 2 is not sure, looks alot better, if they use the quality they put in from PDW it would be great. (external of GHK GKM aka AKM is LCT)

Steven February 24th, 2011 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1416574)
External air still holds true for AKs, only regret for having it now is that it's an ak, don't want aks anymore...
GHK is poop
SRC looks like a poop that doesn't smell so bad....
GHK Ver 2 is not sure, looks alot better, if they use the quality they put in from PDW it would be great. (external of GHK GKM aka AKM is LCT)

Having being saving up and researching for a GBBR of the AK variants, i have to agree. Any Gas in mag AK variant right now is not only not reliable, or game-able, but seem to be lacking in the quality department.

From a person who doesn't mind slings/etc, a single hose will not hold me back from great recoil, no cooldown, etc Daytona is the only, and best option.

Cilantro February 24th, 2011 12:41

I have to agree that classic airsoft GBBRs still rule when it comes to gaming ability, but after last night's impromptu "range test" this GBBR is just too much goddamn fun, and I really appreciate the bolt stop. A few friends and I ended up shooting 10 - 12 mags in their basement (getting repaired/refinished so we went to town on the drywall :P) and there was not a single failure, malfunction or gas venting. The magazine is still in perfect shape and the bolt/nozzle are looking great, too. I'd say that this gun is a CQB beast, very accurate up to 40ft, although I still want to deal with the hopup resetting.

On another note, King Arms trigger guards will fit with slight modification (drill the screw holes 2 sizes up), but inserting the magazine is much harder and not worth the potential worry.

Cinco Boy February 24th, 2011 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1416145)
You fire 5k rounds in under a day? That's 166 mags worth. That's an hour and a half worth of loading at 30 seconds to load a mag. Not to mention at least 3 or 4 tanks of propane. How often to do you clean your gun in this time frame?

Gotta love math

GRIM February 24th, 2011 16:45

Hrmm... I would imagine getting the hopup to stay could be a mod of to do easy... for the mag lip, maybe there will be a replacement... or maybe a AEG Mag will fit with some modding.

Also, the mag feed top could just be filed a bit with a file.

I dunno, I am really tempted to give this gun a try someday.

uptheirons17 March 17th, 2011 15:23

The hop-up wasn't actually a big deal with me. I just pressed the washer on tighter ( on the back) and shes held up ever since. The gun itself is beautiful!

the mags however... I fear the front lip which is black polymer/plastic over time will simply weaken and break. I will not try and speed reload this thing. That and I don't want the $65.00 mags falling on concrete ground.

*quick tip* I took some Caterpillar mouldboard dry graphite lube. And put it on the bolt/piston carrier. (only where friction occurs.) and inside where the bolt rides in and what a difference. The bolt carrier rides so smooth now and it will wear less inside and on the bolt carrier itself. I'll get pictures if people are interested. I know this definitely helps.

I can't wait for for RAtech to release some internals for this( NPAS PLEASE!)

oh, anyone know what the bore of the barrel is?

Latvian291 March 17th, 2011 21:31

Why would you plan to blue a gun that isn't blued in real life? AK-74s are phosphate dipped and then painted... bluing it would be totally unrealistic.

Cilantro March 17th, 2011 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latvian291 (Post 1430864)
Why would you plan to blue a gun that isn't blued in real life? AK-74s are phosphate dipped and then painted... bluing it would be totally unrealistic.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...rbun/ohboy.jpg

Specs March 17th, 2011 23:28

as funny as it is, ^ that guy is right.... we've done this in another thread

Look if he wants to blue it let him, we all know a real man will use it and get a natural look but what he is doing is fine give him a break

Rugger_can March 17th, 2011 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latvian291 (Post 1430864)
Why would you plan to blue a gun that isn't blued in real life? AK-74s are phosphate dipped and then painted... bluing it would be totally unrealistic.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EQo-QYzXpi...1600/gold.jpeg


Zomg then that could not possibly exist, that's umpassible1!!!



Dude, people customize and change firearms all the time that are not the way the factory did it. If he wants to blue his gun or even sand it and nickle plate it. He can.

Relax

Cilantro March 17th, 2011 23:50

The main reason I'd want to try to blue is to give it a more natural-than-what-it-has-now look, but mainly to see the quality/composition of the steel body. If the steel used is cheap and lacks iron, the bluing won;t catch and it's one way to indicate toward specialty or cheap steel...and bluing a patch on the inside receiver is a lot better and cheaper than trying to stress test the frame, or cut a chunk off and have its chemical structure analyzed. Also, as stated above, we all know that NOBODY EVER has decided to veer away from a factory finish :rolleyes:

On a semi-related note to all this, the unseasonably warm weather here in Ottawa means that I'll be making and uploading a video of how this baby shoots. Total round count so far: 540 with 0 failures to feed or cycle, and functioning bolt stop on all magazines fired.

Rugger_can March 18th, 2011 00:03

Have you noticed any wear indications on impacting parts yet?

uptheirons17 March 18th, 2011 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugger_can (Post 1430980)
Have you noticed any wear indications on impacting parts yet?

Just scuff marks here and there. mostly on the bolt carrier. Little on the sear and hammer set. Not anything too major.

Cilantro March 18th, 2011 11:15

Agreed, it's mostly finish wear on the moving parts of the bolt, that thing is pretty damn tough, it's stood up to regular firing and abusive amounts of racking the bolt :P

uptheirons17 March 28th, 2011 00:37

Yup, I had a mag break on me last night. The feeding lip broke in half. Not happy. Crappy ABS plastic!! I was worried about that happening and I barely used it. Not sure if i will buy another one untill SRC fixes this problem.

Cilantro March 28th, 2011 21:44

Yeah, I really hope they fix this, and that other companies take note: the entire top "functioning" part of the mag (feed lips, valves, attachment points) should be metal on ALL GBB mags regardless of "accuracy". I'd rather have working mags that were a little off, than a $60 paper weight after 2 games. I mean, it's either shoved in a pouch or shoved in the gun, who the sh*t cares if it's off a little. I've been trying to brainstorm a way to preemptively reinforce this area, but nothing's coming up, and quite frankly, I shouldn't bloody have to.

uptheirons17 March 29th, 2011 12:37

luckily I found out you can get just the outer shell for cheap. But nevertheless it WILL add up.

Specs April 22nd, 2011 14:16

Has anybody had a problem with the magazine lip yet? I want to buy one but I am really worried about the mag lips.

Disco_Dante April 22nd, 2011 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Specs (Post 1452348)
Has anybody had a problem with the magazine lip yet? I want to buy one but I am really worried about the mag lips.

Post #41

Feeding lip snapped in two.

Specs April 22nd, 2011 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante (Post 1452351)
Post #41

Feeding lip snapped in two.

Thanks, I derped a little.

Specs April 24th, 2011 13:17

Hey has anyone had a leaky mag yet with their SRC AK74? Also have you chronod it?

Specs April 24th, 2011 22:57

Quote:

Hello Derek



Thank you for your mail. We have improved plastic feed lip. You could contact 007 Airsoft if you have any need. Thank you so much.



Best regards



Avril Lee
I emailed SRC asking about the feed lip issue and this is the response I received.

uptheirons17 April 27th, 2011 01:14

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Originally Posted by Specs (Post 1453239)
Hey has anyone had a leaky mag yet with their SRC AK74? Also have you chronod it?

I had one leak. Tore it down and the "square" o-ring had a bump in it. Greased it real good and put it back together and now it leaks a little. The next day opened my gear bag up and the other shell was cracked on half. At least it was the feeding lip this time... ~Doh~

D.Kovacs April 27th, 2011 02:02

You guys making sure to load them with the bolt pulled back?

Specs May 1st, 2011 15:47

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Originally Posted by D.Kovacs (Post 1454874)
You guys making sure to load them with the bolt pulled back?

If you rack the bolt back and then put the mag in it should prevent that resistance issue which breaks the mag lip. At least i think so. Can one of you try using HFC 134a in the gun? I want to see if it works.

chronic May 15th, 2011 00:32

Is this compatible with replica PSO's and PBS-4s?

Looking to re-create my favourite AA-2
http://www.brotherprice.com/ebphoto/ak74u_1.jpg

uptheirons17 May 27th, 2011 18:33

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Originally Posted by Specs (Post 1457262)
If you rack the bolt back and then put the mag in it should prevent that resistance issue which breaks the mag lip. At least i think so. Can one of you try using HFC 134a in the gun? I want to see if it works.

Ive tried "duster gas" it shoots...barely. Havnt chronoed it yet but I can't see it being over 300 FPS. Works okay for CQB though... VERY CQB. haha.
Now that the warm weather has come I have fallen back in love with this gun.
And ya I havn't broke another mag racking the bolt carrier back first... thanks!

Cilantro July 30th, 2011 16:54

Cosmetics & reliability update
 
So, after 5 or so months of getting parts together, tinkering and shooting the SRC AKS74U, I figured it was time for an update. First things first, as of today NO company makes aftermarket parts or upgrades for this gun, and the only manufacturer update that I know of is the supposed strengthened magazine shell because of complaints of breakages when inserting the magazine. I haven't yet had this problem, or ordered one of the new mags/shells.

After at least 2000 BB's, it still shoots hard, fast and straight. I bubba'd the gamy hopup design bu putting some folded card to stop the adjustment slide to slide back with the bolt, and pinched in the pin on the slide to tighten it up. I still haven't had a single misfeed or jam, and the bolt stop function has worked every single time, which is all very impressive.

Aftermarket external parts are a bit of a headache though. I had to dremel, cut or drill every part that I added to make them fit, although for the most part, it was the easiest kind of work: no lathes or machine shops visits necessary. If you can work a knife, you can put stuff on. The only thing I had to completely abandon was the ebairsoft AKS74U Samson-style RIS. I don't know if they have me a shitty model with 2 left attachments or what, but it was looking more and more like I'd need some serious expertise to get what I wanted out of it, so I ditched it.
As of right now, it's sporting:
- Element AK SAW grip
- LCT plastic handguard set
- 2x Magpul PTS 2.5" rails
- modified Magpul PTS 2.5" rail on top of real sight base
- modified Magpul PTS ACS QD Sling Mount
- G&P QD sling swivel

This is the nicest-looking AKS74U out there, as far as I'm concerned. And with the kit on it, it makes for a great PMC/Eastern Bloc SF weapon. I'm definitely proudest of the way the rear sling swivel turned out. Anyone who's used an AK-style airsoft gun knows they're better off for southpaws, and it bugged me that the single sling option had the gun against me, or facing for my reaction hand. Traditional 2 points aren't much better as they have to thread above, over or through the stock, so this was really the most important mod, and it turns out the ACS QD point fits in almost flush, and the stock only needs a shave of 1-2mm at most to get it right in position with the old sling swivel. Anyway, time to put my money where my mouth is and show pics :P

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/017.jpg
Simply beautiful...

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/010.jpg
I'm more showing off my great paracord skills more than anything else :P

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/014.jpg
Close up of the QD sling swivel

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/013.jpg
Now without the actual swivel

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/007.jpg
Other side of the sling swivel

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/018.jpg
The front rails

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/020.jpg
The top rail for small optics, was just cut down and then the top receiver was tapped for the appropriate screws

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/019.jpg
More of the top

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/008.jpg
Motherf*ckin' beautiful, all gussied up for a night on the town ;)

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/005.jpg

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...AKS74U/006.jpg


Well that's about it, if you have any questions just ask here or PM me.

Kit July 30th, 2011 17:21

Wow that paracord is bad ass! Gun too!

weird_al July 30th, 2011 18:14

looks a lot like the WE AKS-74 with that black handgrips

L473ncy October 6th, 2011 23:41

OK, so sorry to necro this but I got my hands on one of these babies the other day and am just looking for info and posting my observations.

Can anyone who also owns one confirm that the inner barrel is a modified AEG barrel? Basically from what I can tell it appears to be an AEG barrel with a slit cut for the hop up rubber to seat itself into (much like a VSR barrel?). Also can anyone with a VSR rubber confirm that the SRC rubber is a modified VSR one except with the protruding nub that runs half way down cut off? I'd like to know if I can use a Firefly or NineBall rubber in it.

Finally that metal "C-clip" on the barrel.... I took it off and can't get it back on again, does it actually have any function? I know that it is seated right underneath the plastic c clip on the hop up but I can't tell if it contacts it and is a necessary part or if it's a redundant part.

Ninja_En_Short October 7th, 2011 09:33

Nope not an AEG barrel at all, it looks like one but the grooves to lock it in the hop up block are not in the same place as an AEG (like all WE GBBRs).

L473ncy October 7th, 2011 10:41

I understand the thing about the grooves missing for it locking into place but comparing the barrel against an AEG barrel it appears as if the only change is that there is that groove for the bucking to slip into and another groove for a metal "C-clip".

The closest barrel that I can compare it against is this Falcon 6.03 but I know it's not the same:

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-p...338-500mm.html

It appears as if the barrel is a hybrid cross between a VSR or other GBB barrel and an AEG barrel.... I'll see if I can modify it and come up with some favourable results. Basically the idea is to dremel those grooves in. Remember, it's easier to remove material than to replace it so hopefully this works out. I'll do it slowly and if it works I'll post up pics showing people how to do it.

Foxx January 8th, 2012 13:47

Sorry to necro this thread but I am planning on purchasing this gbbr this week and am wondering if there are any aftermarket parts as of today ? Has the issue with the mag been corrected ? Thank you .

L473ncy January 23rd, 2012 00:15

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Originally Posted by Foxx (Post 1585957)
Sorry to necro this thread but I am planning on purchasing this gbbr this week and am wondering if there are any aftermarket parts as of today ? Has the issue with the mag been corrected ? Thank you .

Nope, none that I've found. All my internal "modifications" to it are custom. Doesn't look like anyone is going to be supporting it with aftermarket parts so they've got you by the balls with OEM parts....

As far as exterior modifications go, I've got some potentially in the works but we'll see.

supermohawk January 23rd, 2012 00:35

Ken at 007 has any OEM parts you want, just ordered a replacement sear.

KenC March 1st, 2012 17:51

Thanks for the great review.

Since the original date of the review, SRC has now released their AK74, and AK74S. As well as a full line of G36 GBBR's. (http://www.starrainbow.com.tw/gas_gun.htm)

As the SRC distributor of Canada, 007 Airsoft caries all SRC parts, if you can find it in the catalog or your parts diagram, we can get it :)

SRC 2012 catalog if you are looking for parts: http://www.starrainbow.com.tw/temp/S..._Catalogue.pdf

Ken


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