ARMY Kimber R28 1911 inquiry
 

Just saw this online, was wondering why so cheap? ($125 CA) It's full metal, GBB... Is it just total shit given the price comparison to other 1911 pistols? Looking for a new sidearm, so that's why I'm looking around.

For $200 you can pick up a KJW 1911 which is TM compatible, and uses Propane or CO2 magazines... I've rocked one for the better part of a year now, and functions great.

So thats a "no" to the R28 lol

personally I think army makes GOOD tm 1911 clones, Id take it over a WE or maaaaybe over a KJW but the mag valves were pretty awful,
and I think thats a good price as well

The army pistols are supposed to be TM compatible too, but KJW is more reputable in terms of quality control IMO and like shelledpants said, is usable with propane and CO2 mags which the R28 lacks. Get the KJW

The R28 isn't propane compatible? If it's full metal, and another propane magazine is compatible, shouldn't that be an easy fix? and being TM compatible means a lot of upgrade/repair opportunity. What does the gun use? the red gas or whatever the other two types are? I'd be more than willing to swap to other magazines I wouldn't really care since I'd be buying at least four... And I haven't really seen any 'nice' (to me) guns from KJW other than the KP06 and I know it's a bitch to get a holster due to the extended barrel and rail. I was originally going to go with the KP06 but saw the R28 today so figured I'd ask since there was a $60 price difference

However, the army guns do come with some nice looking trades if we are talking about the same guns here. The kjws do not. If your a trademark whore that could be something important. Im tempted to get an army 1911 and swap the frame and slide in a KJW.

Could you PM me the link to them please Reaver.

But overall, KJW makes some pretty decent clones of the TM 1911 and are actually not bad in terms of fit and finish. Ever had a WE 1911. The paint on those wears off soo quickly and looks so bad when it comes off.

PM'd. Not picky with trades, so that's not what I'm after. It's cheaper than most pistols I'm looking at, and that means I can get a few extra magazines. I just want to ensure it is worth the money or if it's just a piece of shit. But given its basically a clone of a 1911 M.E.U. (or whatever it is) isn't that a good thing? And being TM compatible...

Thanks Reaver. Now im tempted to spend more money! haha. Well since the army guns use the same style of mags you are better off in that sense. KJW mags arnt all that bad. Well they are far better in terms of bb capacity and durability than the WE ones. But you could buy it and run it into the ground. For the price thats a decent gun.

Just be weary, TM compatible may not mean compatible in the strictest sense. Every part designed for a TM 1911 that I've dropped into my KJW was a drop-in fit, and even then I might've just gotten lucky. With clones of a so-called lower grade, expect upgrades and parts to not fit in so finely or easily.

As for the fit/compatibility of mags, again it SHOULD be compatible but you can't be 100% sure unless you try it. If you can wait I might check one of these army pistols on the weekend and fit genuine TM mags in them.

Where's brian/Illusion when you need a 1911 question cleared up... He'll clear up any possible question you could have if you just PM me (or give him time, he'll see this thread probably)

No biggie, not buying it yet, so if it gives people time to check into it and see what's what, that's a bonus to me. I found a link to this http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...?topic=95281.0
regarding the R28 upgraded with mostly TM parts. Take a gander, Jordan I think you'll like it ;) Mind you I'm not going this far, but probably a tight bore and maybe a silencer but that's pretty well it until I need replacement parts. for 125 it's hard to beat...

Just wanna drop this here... Tokio Marui magazines ARE compatible, just watched a review and he was using and SHOWED that the magazine he used was in fact a TM 1911 magazine :) and the gun comes with two nozzles, one for gas and one for whatever else it uses lol and it's a TM clone, so TM compatible :) Think i found a good handgun for future upgrading :)

Can I get the link PM'ed to me as well? I want to try and pickup the R29 Gold Cup Match pistol for a wall hanger/showpiece (I'm a match competition whore) but no one seems to have it anywhere I look.

PM'd. Saw that one wasn't crazy about it, too plain to me :P but to each his own. :)

I've run the army 1911 MEU as my go-to side arm for 4 maybe 5 years ( but retired it this year - moved to Glock)

TM mags are a must, the army 1911 mag's are pure crap.

The 2nd nozzle it comes with is just a spare for when the other breaks.

Right off the bat I upgraded it with a Nine-ball 6.03 inner, firefly hop-up , And enhanced recoil spring
(which was an additional $100 or so at the time.) + TM mag's (I think I payed $40 each or something) so you may ended up spending more than you think.

It preformed quite well. But My biggest compliant with the gun is the slop between the slide and the frame. The enhanced recoil spring reduces the slop a bit, but it is still very noticeable and very wobbly (side to side play)

The finish is nothing special, wears over time (I used a safariland holster)

but I like the beat down used and abused look......gives the gun character after being used for such a long period of time.


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Not quite the same as the one I'm looking at has a rail under the barrel and isn't quite as roughed up :p either way, I intend to upgrade them a bit. How far does your gun fire? How's the accuracy? I know you upgraded yours but it'll give me a rough idea what I'll be dealing with. :)

Is the $125 pistol in Canada? If not, forget about it.

What's wrong with it? Tokio Marui compatible so isn't that normally a good thing?...
Edit: or am I reading your message wrong?

I have an Army MEU. Around 150$ it's clearly worth it, IMHO. Replace the nozzle, teflon tape the barrel/hopup junction, get yourself TM mags and you've got a nice full metal pistol for a very affordable price.

The few pieces I had to replace in the years of owning it were all drop-in from TM without any issue whatsoever. Mags were okay, out of 4 I've got 3 that still work with only an oring replacement and occasional valve disassembly to soak the orings inside them. 4th would need a new fill valve. I prefer Army over KJW, but KWA/KSC are better.

Just keep in mind that with the metal slide, it won't shoot as many BBs out of a gas charge as a platic slide gun would.

Oh good, so it IS a decent gun. That's a relief lol. For 125, it's the best deal I've ever seen for a metal pistol... I got the HK px4 and paid almost 300 for it before realizing the trigger spring is a POS and there is no replacement parts or aftermarket parts for the damned thing -_-

Reaver go for it man and TY for the PM. For me personally my reason for getting it is because I want a wall hanger/indoor plinker not something that shoots like a laser outdoors. If you wanted that you'd probably get a TM Mk.23 SOCOM though. If you want a plinker or secondary for outdoor great but keep in mind like others said due to the weight of the metal slide you won't get as good efficiency from the Army (but even a TM with a metal slide kit has the same problem) and may not be able to shoot your full mag.

Keep in mind that the only thing that is truly 100% TM compatible is the original TM and I believe aftermarket companies make their upgrade parts based on TM but "clones" (whether it's G&P or VFC or CYMA or CA or whatever) are still "clones" and may not always play well with each other different company.

I'm making this up here but for example sure ABC airsoft company might be high quality and "TM compatible" but XYZ upgrade company who makes an upgrade part for TM may not play well with ABC because they designed their tolerances for the TM.

Also don't mix upgrade parts with different brands, they may not play well with each other. For example I believe if you get a Prommy piston you need to get a prommy gearset as well, other pistons/gears will shred.

Any help and suggestions are appreciated, and no problem, L473ncy, it's a pleasure to help others looking for items they want, particularly when they say they haven't found one and I'm looking at it on my screen lmao. And I don't need laser accuracy, it's a sidearm after all, but if I can get like 7" - 8" spread at about 125' feet then I'd be more than happy you know? I know that it's a combination between bb weight and quality, hop up unit, bucking and barrel... so yeah lol. I'm buying it, just not yet lol. but soon, before it goes out of stock....

The biggest beef for me is the fact that you can't half-cock the factory hammer. Functionally this isn't really an issue but the side-to-side slide slop is a bit annoying.

The special prices will last till 27th for the ARMY products. Be quick!

Crap! I better get on it then... Save a R28 for me Huang! I will be buying it very soon!

Huang I didnt know you were behind airsoft depot. In that case can you get the chrome Springfield armory 1911s?

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http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p16673...duct_info.html

Yes but no guarantee on timeframe. I will put it in my next Army order.

I will very likely buy one of them if you can get some of them in. I bet a lot of people would pick that up too. Those trademarks are oh so sweet.