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heikis June 19th, 2012 15:59

KSC G19 mags worn out? *SOLVED*
 
have you experienced worn magazines sitting lower in the gun because of using steel magcatches? had i known the steel catch would wear out both my magazines in 2 years, i would have stayed with plastic magcatches and replacing those instead of expensive mags.

anyway my mags are sitting lower and a lot of gas is wasted and the blowback is weak- unless i press the mag from below. and the wear of the magazines is actually almost unnoticable by the look of the eye. im not sure if it is even half a millimeter. which makes it really weird.

Stealth June 19th, 2012 16:04

If you're having that issue, you can try putting some mag seal shims under your rubber gas lip to boost up the height.

I haven't had this issue and I've been using KSC G19s for the past 10 years.

Death March June 20th, 2012 09:37

I have 6-7 KSC/KWA Glock series and all have the metal mag catch. Have never had this issue with any of them,my oldest G19 has been running this way for 6 years??? Do you have a pic of the area on the mag by chance?

e-luder June 20th, 2012 13:57

just get a new mag catch.

or you see that ridge whhere the mag catch latches on the mag?
you can pack with something to create the lift you're looking for. pften times the metal mag catch will wear to top part down.

Stealth June 20th, 2012 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-luder (Post 1668992)
just get a new mag catch.

or you see that ridge whhere the mag catch latches on the mag?
you can pack with something to create the lift you're looking for. pften times the metal mag catch will wear to top part down.

His mags are wearing out, not his catch.

heikis June 20th, 2012 18:16

the catch doesnt show any wear by the look, just some scraped off color, no dent or cavity that i could identify. also it is steel. the mags however seem to be of some type softer metal.

i will try to take some pictures by the start of the new week. hopefully i could test with some new mags to get more clarity to the issue.

EdisLeado June 20th, 2012 23:06

I actually have sort of the same problem too. I still have a plastic mag catch however. It seems that about 2 out of my 5 mags will not lock back when they're empty (whether by pulling the slide back manually or by shooting). If I push them up a bit, they will lock perfectly. I cannot see any differences between the mags when comparing them side-by-side however.

Death March June 21st, 2012 09:50

With the plastic mag catch,thats your issue. Just replace it with a metal one. Other than that I just put a short wrap of tape at the base of the mag so it doesent just drop outa the gun,so it helps keep all my mags snug as well there easy to see if you drop them (I use white & yellow tape). You'll have to play with the tape alittle bit as if you have too much,it'll be a bi*ch to take in & out. I have about 12 mag's and don't have any of these issue's anymore with any of them after installing the metal mag catch (Guarder) if you have one of the other brand catch then I can't speak about them as I'v heard some are made of a softer metal,and that might be the issue it's self.

EdisLeado June 21st, 2012 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death March (Post 1669360)
With the plastic mag catch,thats your issue. Just replace it with a metal one. Other than that I just put a short wrap of tape at the base of the mag so it doesent just drop outa the gun,so it helps keep all my mags snug as well there easy to see if you drop them (I use white & yellow tape). You'll have to play with the tape alittle bit as if you have too much,it'll be a bi*ch to take in & out. I have about 12 mag's and don't have any of these issue's anymore with any of them after installing the metal mag catch (Guarder) if you have one of the other brand catch then I can't speak about them as I'v heard some are made of a softer metal,and that might be the issue it's self.

But only some, not all, of the mags have that issue of the slide not locking back.

Nevertheless, I've ordered a Guarder metal mag catch as the plastic one doesn't look like it'll hold up for much longer.

Death March June 24th, 2012 02:40

The slide not locking back is a different issue(check the nozzel for cracks). But as for the mag dropping down and not get'en a good seal is different. Or the top seal could be shot on 2 of your 5 mags. It's hard to say with out seeing it.

e-luder June 24th, 2012 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdisLeado (Post 1669365)
But only some, not all, of the mags have that issue of the slide not locking back.

Nevertheless, I've ordered a Guarder metal mag catch as the plastic one doesn't look like it'll hold up for much longer.

Have checked the slide catch follower on the two magazines that don't work properly? It's probably worn or the spring is not pushing it up properly.

I'm guessing it's that.

heikis June 30th, 2012 04:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by heikis (Post 1669124)
the catch doesnt show any wear by the look, just some scraped off color, no dent or cavity that i could identify. also it is steel. the mags however seem to be of some type softer metal.

i will try to take some pictures by the start of the new week. hopefully i could test with some new mags to get more clarity to the issue.

now i got some photos.

this is as the mag sits without any aid:
http://www.upload.ee/thumb/2473070/P6300105.JPG

with aid:
http://www.upload.ee/thumb/2473074/P6300107.JPG

how the magcatch has eaten into the mag:
http://www.upload.ee/thumb/2473075/P6300108.JPG

this is where the magcatch "catches" the mag:
http://www.upload.ee/thumb/2473080/P6300111.JPG

the rubber gasket:
http://www.upload.ee/thumb/2473084/P6300113.JPG

maybe you could compare and tell me if this is normal wear. i was also thinking maybe the rubber gasket of the mag has worn lower, but it doesnt look like it. now that i closely looked at all the possible parts causing the trouble... they havent actually worn out that much.. atleast not to give me the problems i am experiencing.

p.phresh July 4th, 2012 18:01

I would try some electrical tape on the mag catch on the mag to see if that would help fill that void. Otherwise I guess it's new mags for you, or you can try the shims for the gas seal.

heikis July 25th, 2012 16:44

well.. i figured it out. gun is shooting 50 shots on one gas fill.

i had to put some layers of electric tape on the top of the blowback chamber below the slide. for some reason it has worn down a little bit.

case closed, solution found


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